Comments for Shut Up, Sit Down http://shutupsitdown.co.uk Radical feminism with a serving of lefty politics and a side dish of proud mamahood. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:54:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 Comment on Transgender Day Of Remembrance by Transgender Day of Remembrance 2008 « bird of paradox http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/20/transgender-day-of-remembrance/#comment-1537 Transgender Day of Remembrance 2008 « bird of paradox Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:31:33 +0000 http://shutupsitdown.wordpress.com/?p=392#comment-1537 [...] Comments Transgender Day Of Remembrance « Shut Up, Sit Down on Transgender Day of Remembrance 2008Feministe » Full Spectrum on Transgender Day of [...] [...] Comments Transgender Day Of Remembrance « Shut Up, Sit Down on Transgender Day of Remembrance 2008Feministe » Full Spectrum on Transgender Day of [...]

]]> Comment on links for 2008-11-19 by happyendingsdoc http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/19/links-for-2008-11-19/#comment-1527 happyendingsdoc Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:57:04 +0000 http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/19/links-for-2008-11-19/#comment-1527 Check out"happy endings" a doc film on Asian massage parlors in Rhode Island, USA where prostitution is legal. Check the blog and youtube channel and leave comments. Sign up on the website to get updates on the release. www.happyendingsdoc.com http://happyendingsdoc.wordpress.com http://www.youtube.com/happyendingsdoc www.myspace.com/happyendingsdoc Check out”happy endings” a doc film on Asian massage parlors in Rhode Island, USA where prostitution is legal. Check the blog and youtube channel and leave comments. Sign up on the website to get updates on the release.
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]]> Comment on Archive of the Biting Beaver by Tom http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/04/26/archive-of-the-biting-beaver/#comment-1503 Tom Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:08:09 +0000 http://shutupsitdown.wordpress.com/?p=221#comment-1503 Could you post her article on "lesbian" pornography (I recall it mentioning the use of attractive-by-male-standards women penetrating each other with dildos)? I found it to be the most educational to me... Could you post her article on “lesbian” pornography (I recall it mentioning the use of attractive-by-male-standards women penetrating each other with dildos)? I found it to be the most educational to me…

]]> Comment on About by zooeyibz http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/about/#comment-1456 zooeyibz Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:21:14 +0000 #comment-1456 hi Anji thanks for linking to my <a href="http://irresponsibility.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/an-end-to-ridiculous-beauty-standards%E2%80%A6-for-vegetables/" rel="nofollow">post on veggie beauty</a>... I've added you to my feed and look forward to getting to know your blog. best Zooey hi Anji
thanks for linking to my post on veggie beauty… I’ve added you to my feed and look forward to getting to know your blog.
best
Zooey

]]> Comment on Transgender and Radical Feminism by Inquiring mind http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/06/18/transgender-and-radical-feminism/#comment-1426 Inquiring mind Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:59:02 +0000 http://shutupsitdown.wordpress.com/?p=238#comment-1426 My question for trans people of both genders: What do you mean by 'the wrong body'? This is what confuses me. If it is a functional healthy body (of either biological sex) the one you have grown up with all your life and had a significant part in shaping, what is wrong about it? I honestly do not mean this sarcastically. I am biologically female, but I am psychologically ME - a self I have always been, the shape of which I have spent my life discovering/sculpting. And part of what has informed me that I am me, an entity discrete from other people and things, is the body I am in. It hasn't told me I'm a girl; society told me that. It has told me I am of these dimensions, these capacities. And I have shaped it, made it rounder or stronger or faster to suit my purposes. We have a dialogue, but we are one. How can your body not be right, when it is the only one you have any idea what it is like to be in? How can a body made to look like a different one be any more right? It can't just be wanting to be treated by society as a member of one or the other gender role, as many transexuals can achieve this without surgery, and even post-surgery, I imagine that those who would object to people living as a different gender will have just as much of a problem with it (possibly more so) after surgery. I can't believe it is anything so trivial as really extensive cosmetic surgery ('I don't like the way this looks, I like the way *this* looks'), a la Michael Jackson (mentioned above). Nor can I accept it as a viable response to a mental illness on a par with body integrity identity disorder (mentioned by Samantha comparatively above) as when someone like the person in your example wants to amputate their arm, say, because it 'feels wrong' they are encouraged not to do so, and to reach a more positive attitude to their own healthy body, rather than harm it. So what exactly is it that causes someone to undergo prolonged, irreversible and medically/physically (?? I'm groping for the right word here) unnecessary surgery? I really hope this isn't taken as offensive, or overly interrogative, as it is not meant to be so; I only want to learn. My question for trans people of both genders:

What do you mean by ‘the wrong body’?

This is what confuses me. If it is a functional healthy body (of either biological sex) the one you have grown up with all your life and had a significant part in shaping, what is wrong about it?

I honestly do not mean this sarcastically. I am biologically female, but I am psychologically ME - a self I have always been, the shape of which I have spent my life discovering/sculpting. And part of what has informed me that I am me, an entity discrete from other people and things, is the body I am in. It hasn’t told me I’m a girl; society told me that. It has told me I am of these dimensions, these capacities. And I have shaped it, made it rounder or stronger or faster to suit my purposes. We have a dialogue, but we are one.

How can your body not be right, when it is the only one you have any idea what it is like to be in? How can a body made to look like a different one be any more right?

It can’t just be wanting to be treated by society as a member of one or the other gender role, as many transexuals can achieve this without surgery, and even post-surgery, I imagine that those who would object to people living as a different gender will have just as much of a problem with it (possibly more so) after surgery.

I can’t believe it is anything so trivial as really extensive cosmetic surgery (’I don’t like the way this looks, I like the way *this* looks’), a la Michael Jackson (mentioned above).

Nor can I accept it as a viable response to a mental illness on a par with body integrity identity disorder (mentioned by Samantha comparatively above) as when someone like the person in your example wants to amputate their arm, say, because it ‘feels wrong’ they are encouraged not to do so, and to reach a more positive attitude to their own healthy body, rather than harm it. So what exactly is it that causes someone to undergo prolonged, irreversible and medically/physically (?? I’m groping for the right word here) unnecessary surgery?

I really hope this isn’t taken as offensive, or overly interrogative, as it is not meant to be so; I only want to learn.

]]> Comment on Some Feminists Hate Men by Madeline Knapp http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/09/02/some-feminists-hate-men/#comment-1418 Madeline Knapp Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:24:53 +0000 http://shutupsitdown.wordpress.com/?p=306#comment-1418 While hatred is, for the most part, a wasted emotion, it is important to consider the reasons some women have for hating men. No women's group has ever sought denying men equal rights. Women don't, generically rape men. Heat of passion defenses, reducing murder to manslaughter, are generally sought by men when they kill women, implying that men should have some right to let their passions rule them. This being the case, women certainly have a reason to distrust men as a group. Hatred is another matter. While hatred is, for the most part, a wasted emotion, it is important to consider the reasons some women have for hating men. No women’s group has ever sought denying men equal rights. Women don’t, generically rape men. Heat of passion defenses, reducing murder to manslaughter, are generally sought by men when they kill women, implying that men should have some right to let their passions rule them. This being the case, women certainly have a reason to distrust men as a group. Hatred is another matter.

]]> Comment on links for 2008-11-02 by SharkBait http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/02/links-for-2008-11-02/#comment-1403 SharkBait Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:23:40 +0000 http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/02/links-for-2008-11-02/#comment-1403 I live by paying it forward all the time, and now and then I like to spread it a bit further if I cat - want to be my number three for this time? Drop me an email with your postal address and you're in. SharkBait I live by paying it forward all the time, and now and then I like to spread it a bit further if I cat - want to be my number three for this time? Drop me an email with your postal address and you’re in.

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]]> Comment on links for 2008-11-02 by Sarah http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/02/links-for-2008-11-02/#comment-1402 Sarah Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:21:46 +0000 http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/02/links-for-2008-11-02/#comment-1402 Soap nuts are the most fabulous thing ever! They grow on trees, contribute to their native ecosystem and the carbon and water cycles, the trees are beautiful (I have one growing in a pot here) and then they clean literally EVERYTHING! (I sell them too) Best, Sarah Soap nuts are the most fabulous thing ever! They grow on trees, contribute to their native ecosystem and the carbon and water cycles, the trees are beautiful (I have one growing in a pot here) and then they clean literally EVERYTHING!

(I sell them too)
Best,
Sarah

]]> Comment on links for 2008-11-03 by Custer http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/03/links-for-2008-11-03/#comment-1363 Custer Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:51:58 +0000 http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/03/links-for-2008-11-03/#comment-1363 This guy Bilal Skaf was the leader of a gang of rapists and preyed on young women in Sydney Australia. 14 of them raped one girl 25 times and he's worried about his name not giving him a fair go... what a scum bag... I say let him rot in prison until 2023 when he's allowed parole... This guy Bilal Skaf was the leader of a gang of rapists and preyed on young women in Sydney Australia. 14 of them raped one girl 25 times and he’s worried about his name not giving him a fair go… what a scum bag… I say let him rot in prison until 2023 when he’s allowed parole…

]]> Comment on links for 2008-11-03 by veredd http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/03/links-for-2008-11-03/#comment-1361 veredd Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:03:23 +0000 http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/11/03/links-for-2008-11-03/#comment-1361 Thank you for including my article. Off to check out "no one understood why I took my wife's name". :) Thank you for including my article.

Off to check out “no one understood why I took my wife’s name”. :)

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